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    To those of you who run Bucksweep with the HB going in motion how do you teach the motion to the HB?

    Last year we installed the Bucksweep and it was a very successfully install for us. Actually had a higher efficiency than our Rocket Toss which is our primary play.

    We only ran it to the TE side with HB in his dive-back alignment or in his wing alignment so we never had to use motion last year (in his wing spot he cheated his alignment so it basically like he was in the dive position).

    In looking at film from last year I think we'd benefit from being able to run Bucksweep to the SE side of our offense. Our best two offensive plays the last few years have been Down and Rocket to the TE side (or TE Unbalanced) side so we see alot of overloads to the TE/WB side. It would be great to attack to back to the SE/WB flank with something other than Rocket Toss (which gives the defense a chance to react back).

    Anyway, how do you teach the HB's motion when you run Bucksweep to the SE side?

    We don't do any of the traditional 3 step motion and I'd like to be able to tie in the motion to our Rocket motion as much as we can, by that I mean keeping the HB running his motion at full speed.

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    Coach,
    We love buck to the split side. We always have the qb send the motion man with his foot. So really it's on the qb to time it up, the way we ended up doing it was having the qb give the signal and snap the ball when the motion man hit his second step (it happens really fast). Since we had the rb's sprinting, it really happened fast and didn't give the defense time to adjust.
    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachpike
    Coach,
    We love buck to the split side. We always have the qb send the motion man with his foot. So really it's on the qb to time it up, the way we ended up doing it was having the qb give the signal and snap the ball when the motion man hit his second step (it happens really fast). Since we had the rb's sprinting, it really happened fast and didn't give the defense time to adjust.
    Hope this helps.
    Thanks coach when you run the HB motion are his two steps running at full speed or is it controlled speed?

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    Full Speed. He goes as quickly as he can without being out of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachpike
    Full Speed. He goes as quickly as he can without being out of control.
    Do you run Bucksweep to the TE side with the same motion when you are in Red/Blue?

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    Yes we do. Our base alignment is is 3 yards outside of the Tackle when we are a slot, so we are the same distance away from the tackle whether we are a slot or a wing (in red/blue). We did this so the timing of motion was consistent.

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    Coach when we ran the buck (21-29) and its complements it was always two count motion. What we found useful was we told our WB to open up and aim at the heels of the fullback, "raise" up and go. It seemed to work well for us and timed up pretty good,
    Ed Sadloch
    Head Football Coach
    Cedar Grove (NJ) H.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Sadloch
    Coach when we ran the buck (21-29) and its complements it was always two count motion. What we found useful was we told our WB to open up and aim at the heels of the fullback, "raise" up and go. It seemed to work well for us and timed up pretty good,
    Are you having the WB running full speed and how many steps does he get in before the snap?

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    Coach Schelb,

    Quick side sweep is great for us too. From the wingback position, we have him align with inside foot staggered, easy to go in motion. We use three step motion, getting to dive back position (we always put a cone at that landmark during practice) Full speed, QB job is to snap the ball when he is there.
    Coach Woods
    Classical Academy
    Escondido, CA
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    For we walk by faith, not by sight.
    2 Corinthians 5:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachSchelb
    Are you having the WB running full speed and how many steps does he get in before the snap?
    Not sure how many steps but we are trying to get him at full speed and when the ball is snapped he should be on the outside leg of the offensive tackle.
    Ed Sadloch
    Head Football Coach
    Cedar Grove (NJ) H.S.

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